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Interrogation Report #388 11/20/19

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<Begin Report>
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SCP Foundation MP Report #388
11/20/19
Head Marshal Thompson
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Dr. Vandun|Researcher|Level Two
Articles 3, 4, 9, and 22
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Officer Smitt and Officer Jones were in lower R-Wing testing chambers, when Dr. Vandun approached Jones allegedly stating, "Hey, do you want to see a magic trick?" to which Smitt walked over to Vandun to see what he was talking about. When Smitt was directly in front of the researcher, Vandun pulled out a knife and threw it at him.

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<Begin Log>
When brought into the interrogation room, Vandun stated to have been "testing the arc of the knife when thrown." Officer Smitt and Officer Jones protested this statement as being falsified information. Seeking to get to the bottom of this, I brought all three of them and a research supervisor, Dr. Parks, down to the camera rooms to view the scenario at hand. When checking the cameras for the Lower R-Wing testing chamber, I witnessed the whole situation unfold in front of me. The camera feed depicted what the officers were describing almost to complete accuracy, to which I withdrawed Dr. Parks and myself into a different room to discuss a viable punishment for the researcher. Dr. Parks wanted a second decision on the matter, to which he called another research supervisor, Dr. Blackwood, to help him in his decision making. When explained the situation, Blackwood decided that the best decision to make was to terminate Vandun's position at Area-XYZ due to his misconduct and inability to stick with the same story.
<End Log>

Dr. Vandun was demoted, and Officer Smitt's wounds were fixed.
<End Report>​
 
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// It's to my understanding Bokser's intention to "Test the arc of the knife" was an OOC intention as he talks of trying to utilise a Rubber Knife, to be told rubber melee weapons don't exist.

// If I can have that confirmed @Skeeter that'd be great.
 

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// It's to my understanding Bokser's intention to "Test the arc of the knife" was an OOC intention as he talks of trying to utilise a Rubber Knife, to be told rubber melee weapons don't exist.

// If I can have that confirmed @Skeeter that'd be great.
// He said it IC before he swapped stories.
 

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// I mostly antagonized him for throwing a knife at me.
// OOCly antagonising someone isn't a good thing regardless of what it comes across as ICly. There's a reason I'm talking OOCly.
 

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// OOCly antagonising someone isn't a good thing regardless of what it comes across as ICly. There's a reason I'm talking OOCly.
// He was far more harsh to me then I was too him. But im sure you know all about it from your first hand experience. Sorry if me responding to him OOC made his character shit his pants mid RP.
 

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// He was far more harsh to me then I was too him. But im sure you know all about it from your first hand experience. Sorry if me responding to him OOC made his character shit his pants mid RP.
// Maybe that is why I'm asking for the POVs of the other persons there Orphan.

// @Edgy @Soles @Skeeter

// And for the record, here's the full paragraph of his appeal with my response.

I'm going to go through your quote and Colour the main points and think on it more.

Green = I'm okay with this
Red = I'm not okay with this OR have a concern
Orange = Citation / verification needed
Blue = Bracketed, a reply to the above colours

I have paragraphed for easier viewing.

V is me, O is Orphan, A is the anonymous person I’m not sure who they were. Firstly I followed them into the testing chambers because they said they wanted to mess around.

I assumed they were new to the server( never assume something like this ) and I was already wanted to test knife trajectory so I asked them if they wanted to see it thrown as a magic trick. The diagram shows near exact location of orphan and me and the way the knife was thrown.

I never meant to hit him or cause any harm I simply wanted to show them the knife as a precaution I had previously loaded rubber as I’ve seen people do countless times before.
(practice knives do exist by being blunt and not sharp)

Now Skeeter claims melee weapons cannot be rubber I was following his direct example from the day before when he kill led with a glass shard and said it was rubber you can ask Kes and he will confirm this.
(I personally believe this to be a misconception that you threw a "Rubber Knife" which could technically still be sharp, when in reality you implied intention was to throw a non-lethal blunt knife, but you probably didn't know you can't do /me equips rubber knife)

I have seen other high ranking researchers throw knives and I had no reason to believe it was vandalism. ( I can verify this myself, this does happen and consistently not just by the Research Division, hell they shoot walls sometimes "for fun" )

I followed orphan after he was hit I was unarmed and he was screaming in voice chat I asked him to stop because I wanted to apologize and I thought he was kidding about being hurt.

I switched in and out of a hazmat suit in the door right in front of him to scare him this is true but he was in direct line of sight and I didn’t run. (Always take IC circumstances seriously, as this probably worked against you more than you realise)

He said he wanted to detain me so I allowed him to /me to take my radio and /me to zip tie me even though I have never heard of security officers being allowed to detain people in the past I gave him the benefit of the doubt. ( Responsible and yes, they can in-fact do this. )

I allowed him to take me to the marshal where he repeatedly said ooc things in voice chat trying to antagonize me and make me angry. (Do you have screenshots of this or any witnesses? If not, take pictures in the future, its why I constantly have Nvidia Shadowplay in case I need to backup footage / photos. Also who was the Marshal, was he there when this happened?)

Whenever I started typing he would tell very loudly calling me an idiot and other various remarks such as “we got them”.
(Again who was the Marshal?)

I have seen SOC use rubber melee weapons in the past and had no reason to believe they weren’t allowed. (Likewise)

I would never try to purposely harm any foundation member I’ve played almost every branch and follow the rules religiously. (You're on my positive watch list for a reason Bokser.)

I wanted to conduct add those two items to your test today with 914 I’m sorry for any drama or miscommunications that I have caused but I really like Dr. Vandun and was looking forward to workings with XYZ objects in the vault. (I have not taken any decision to reprimand yet, and I actually have other concerns that I will sort through first before I make any decisions.)
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When you mentioned "Test the arc of the Knife" (im reading the interrogation report)

was that intended as an OOC statement or an IC one?
I told Skeeter IC my sole intention was to test the curve and I was telling the truth I never meant to hit Orphan.
Skeeter was the marshal who interrogated me, I was brought into the surveillance room and multiple people were watching through the windows and interrupting me as I tried to talk even though they weren’t part of the interrogation.

Edgy and Soles both repeatedly asked Orphan to stop flaming me and I asked to talk in a separate room to skeeter and edgy but my request was denied.
 
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// I want this whole thing verified by the witnesses that are not Bokser (Defendant) Orphan (Accuser) because as far as I'm concerned this is not just an IC issue, I'm working through the "He says she says"
 

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// I want this whole thing verified by the witnesses that are not Bokser (Defendant) Orphan (Accuser) because as far as I'm concerned this is not just an IC issue, I'm working through the "He says she says"
// Yes because doing "/me loads rubber knife" and saying "wanna see a magic trick" is testing the arc.

I'll get the guy who was there anyways.
 

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// Maybe that is why I'm asking for the POVs of the other persons there Orphan.

// @Edgy @Soles @Skeeter

// And for the record, here's the full paragraph of his appeal with my response.



//
// I want this whole thing verified by the witnesses that are not Bokser (Defendant) Orphan (Accuser) because as far as I'm concerned this is not just an IC issue, I'm working through the "He says she says"
// everything that has been stated by skeeter and orphan is true, he did swap stories and even tried to lie he way out by giving false facts and just saying random shit most of the time. If you think you need more talk to me in TS.
 

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// I want this whole thing verified by the witnesses that are not Bokser (Defendant) Orphan (Accuser) because as far as I'm concerned this is not just an IC issue, I'm working through the "He says she says"
// Burg said no rubber knives, and he didn't make an attempt to even try to say it was a practice knife. I brought him into the camera room and reviewed the footage and had both Orphan and Zeko confirm that I saw Orphan walk in front of the researcher with his knife holstered then immediately take out a knife and throw it at him. Edgy tried to give him a chance asking for a good IC reason why he should not get demoted, to which he got no good response.

  • Yes, Orphan got a knife thrown at him.
  • Yes, Orphan could have been a bit nicer in the situation.
  • Yes, if bokser brought up the fact that it was a training knife I would have let him go, as I originally did before the rubber thing was voided.
  • Yes, bokser's story started flopping from the beginning to the end.
 
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